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Anyone for Side Saddle?

Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 | saddle fitting

A reader, Firedrake, has posted a story of intense frustration with finding a saddle that will work for both her horse and her.  This is not an uncommon situation, and riders often kiss a great many saddle frogs without managing to find a prince.  But there are reasons to be optimistic - patient and optimistic.
This saddle was custom-made for this horse.  The other saddle was off the rack at half the price.  You be the judge of which one is the better fit.

This saddle was custom-made for this horse. The other saddle was off the rack at half the price. You be the judge of which one is the better fit.

In reality, many people have one saddle failure after another without grasping that they are really trying very similar saddles time after time, dressed up in different outfits under different brand names.  Even saddles     
“custom-made” for the horse (a loaded term if ever there was one), or a brand of saddle that is supposedly designed to meet the requirements of a particular breed (what a good idea that sounds like) can be a terrible let down, and it isn’t always easy to know exactly why.


 
As the saddle biz has become more of a standardized national industry rather than a small-scale craft (think Starbucks v. the local, homegrown coffee shop), I would say that there is less genuine variety in they type of saddles that are commonly available.  In my observation, most of the major producers and “custom-made” brands tend to feature saddles that are quite similar to one another in basic tree type.   This is because they make what they think riders want, which makes perfect sense from a business viewpoint.  There is no doubt that consumer trends are a powerful driver in any market.
 
Ironically, the UK is a very small country with a much smaller riding population than ours, but it offers a vastly greater number of genuinely different saddles for horses and riders to choose from.  There are scores of excellent small saddle makers that most readers will never have heard of, and the variety on offer there is almost unimaginable to us in our vast, diffuse market where a handful of recognizable name brands predominate. 
 
So…how does this help our frustrated reader?
 
The first cause for hope is that in my experience, if a rider can find a saddle that truly fits her horse and allows the horse to perform optimally, the rider nearly always develops a love for the saddle.  I don’t exactly know how this works, but I can assure you that time and time again, riders who have bought a particularly well-fitting saddle for the sake of the horse – even if it wasn’t exactly “the feel” they thought they wanted for themselves - have reported back after a few months that they now love the saddle and can’t imagine going back to what they used to ride in.  I have no exact explanation for this, but since I frown darkly upon magical thinking, let’s call it the horse/brain/body nexus.  (Hey, work with me here! This really does happen.)
 
The second reason for hope is that alternatives to what you have already tried, Firedrake, are out there.  In their own little way, some of these small British independent saddle makers that have little or no name recognition here are making in-roads and developing practically a cult following of new converts to the old way of doing things.  Interestingly, many of the fit solutions for the deeply frustrated are to be found in old-time trees that have been in use for decades but have largely been supplanted in “modern” saddles by the trendy newer styles that (I think) are often much more appealing to riders than to horses.

I have a theory about this, having to do with the fact that in the olden days, before we had equine steroid injections and a vast toolbox of other high-tech treatment options for sore horses, more attention was paid tobuidling the saddle from the horse up to the rider.  Nowdays the first step in the process is generally for the rider to choose a saddle she likes, and then…something apparently magical takes place behind the scenes that can transform any saddle she chooses into a saddle that is highly suitable for the horse she rides. 

In any case, Firedrake, I would suggest you make a plan for ordering priorities in your search.  First, try to identify what sort of saddle options are available in the wider world of saddles outside the majors that might fit your horse.  You can save an awful lot of trial and error if you can can get expert advice about what specifically you should be looking for — local help if possible; long distance if necessary.

When you have identified one or more saddles that the horse is comfortable with, figure out what would absolutely have to be different for you to ride comfortably and effectively in the saddle.  Your saddle fitter doesn’t have to be a saddle maker, but the better he or she understands the technical trade-offs involved in the design technology of saddles, the better shot you have at getting the array of features you feel you need for yourself once the horse is sorted. 

Lastly, if you can find something that works well for your horse, perhaps you should consider making a temporary accommodation with something like a pro-lite seat saver, and think of a horse-friendly saddle as a temporary solution that will buy you time to find something else that might be the perfect fit for you too.  Also, you should know that you are by no means alone.  I’m sure every saddle fitter on earth has clients who have suffered all manner of bruising in the saddle. 

And if all else fails, you can always switch to a side saddle.  It looks very romantic in the right outfit, and you are guaranteed not to have the same set of problems you are having now!

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4 Comments to Anyone for Side Saddle?

swgarasu
October 30, 2008

Hello, I really enjoy reading your blog. I think most riders actually want to know how to get a saddle that fits well and is comfortable for their horse, but we’re pretty clueless. So thanks for all the insight you’ve provided thus far!

I was wondering, since you mention repeatedly how important it is for a tree to be the right shape, why saddle fitters don’t all have a set of inexpensive model trees made of plastic that could be set on the horse’s back to determine that the shape is a good one before the saddle belonging to that tree is ever tried on the horse? It seems like this would be inexpensive, highly portable, and very useful.
Of course this would require cooperation on the part of saddle manufacturers, but if a group of saddle fitters got together and made the request it seems like it could happen- not to mention all the people who aren’t saddle fitters that are saddle shopping- I bet it would still be better than just sending in tracings and shipping saddles back and forth for trials.

Colleen
October 30, 2008

swgarasu:

I am so glad you asked that question! I think there is a two-part answer to this.

In the first place, I don’t think most saddle fitters in this country are really taught to look at the process of saddle fitting in this way. When I first got into this biz, I learned something about the mechanics of saddle fitting, but almost nothing about the underlying concepts.

The typical sales call procedure was: first have the customer sit on some saddles on the plastic fitting horse to establish which model the customer liked. The next step was to determine which width was the best match for the horse’s wither tracing. The last piece was to artfully stuff the panels to try to balance the saddle. Sometimes a particularly deep panel or some other special feature was needed to coax the saddle to sit level.

From what I gather, some variation of this is pretty prevalent in the way that new saddles are sold in this country, regardless of whether they are “custom-fit” to the horse they are going on. (IMHO the whole concept of “custom” really needs a good, hard look.)

Now, as to why what you are suggesting is not common procedure: Imagine the dismay of a customer who is all ready to buy a saddle she really likes, only to back out of the purchase when she realizes from looking at the bare tree on her horse’s back that its shape is really a lousy match for the contours of her particular horse. Oh dear. How very inconvenient.

But fundamentally, what you suggest does make sense: fitters should have trees to work with and should carefully study the trees that are in the saddles they are selling. Personally, I can fit a particular type of saddle over and over again and still not really understand its fit considerations very well without seeing the tree it is built on and how it looks compared to other trees.

This doesn’t really mean that every time a fitter puts a saddle on a horse, he or she has to have a bare tree to use as a guide; but it can be immensely helpful to the process of understanding the fit considerations of a particular saddle and what kind of horse it will work well for. It also allows the fitter to dig much deeper for answers to why a saddle that looks like a decent fit by external assessment might not be working well for a particular horse.

Why don’t saddle makers encourage their sales force of fitters to work from bare trees? A cynic (not yours truly, of course) might conclude that it is because they want the customer to buy THEIR saddle, not someone else’s saddle built on a different shape of tree.

Not all saddle manufacturers– in fact, not many — build saddles on a full range of different tree shapes. And they do have very valid commercial reasons for this.

I have a hefty collection of trees that I have bought one at a time from the various saddle makers I work with. They cost about $100 a piece, give or take, and are a bargain at the price, considering that understanding the trees in the saddles we fit can help prevent some very expensive errors.

swgarasu
November 7, 2008

Thanks for your response- it is not quite as encouraging as I would have liked, but it does answer the question. I guess I just hope you are the leader of a saddle fitting revolution for happier horses everywhere. ^_^
Sadly the fitters I have talked to have all just mentioned bringing saddles to try, but I feel I have no way of knowing whether a particular one would be good for my horse or not- and I wish that she could “try on” some trees with nothing to obfuscate them.

mjmvet
December 20, 2008

I’ve had these same thoughts - I know my mare needs a non-standard shape tree - if only I knew what it was I needed! With a wide barrel and shoulders to match, she has prominent withers, and NOTHING off the rack so far has come close to fitting her. I second the notion that placing a bare tree on the horse would be so helpful. LOVE the blog - keep those posts going!!

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